Spirit and Kundalini: The Reflection of the Primordial Father and Mother

"The Spirit resides in us in our heart. It's the reflection of God Almighty. In Sanskrit language: this aspect of God which is all-pervading and is the first and the last, is called as Sadashiva, is the Father, who does not incarnate. We say Yahova, you can say, or the God who does not incarnate. This great aspect which encompasses everything ultimately and also manifests everything, is reflected within our heart as the Spirit. This aspect is just the witness aspect. It witnesses the play of its power, the Primordial Power, the Holy Ghost, to see what is created by Her. He's the only enjoyer of the game. He sees the game, the leela, the fun. She organizes everything, it is She who gets divided into three powers, it is She who creates the whole universe, it is She who gives us this evolution, it is She who makes us human beings and it is She who has to make us the higher human being. That's the Holy Ghost, the Primordial Holy Ghost and the reflection of that is this Kundalini within us. These two have to meet. They are separated; the Spirit within you and the Holy Ghost within you have to meet. That is the Yoga, that's the union."


Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - 7 October 1981, extract from public programme, Houston, USA.



1981-1007 4th Public Program Houston from Sahaja Library on Vimeo.

Nature versus Material Life

"Now, you notice in the nature it's so matching, you know. Nothing gross, nothing loud - it's so beautiful, this is red but it has green to match it. This Mother Earth knows everything, She understands everything, She does everything, but what do we do for Mother Earth? - Is to run after artificial things, machinery, this thing - and now a new thing has come, is computer. It's all right if you want to write letters to someone, but otherwise it's quite maddening, you know. And this computer will make our brain absolutely zero. We'll be paralyzed, we won't be able to think 2 + 2. So, anything that you want to use also, should have its maryadas, don't go beyond it.

If you take to swimming, you'll go on swimming till you get sick. If you are horse riding, you'll go on horse riding till you fall down. You see, this is also a kind of a life which has no maryadas - like greed has no maryadas, that's how also this kind of nonsense, 'I am only fond of this, I am only fond of this.' You are a human being, you should never say like that. On the contrary you should say 'I must learn this, I must know this, what is this all about?' It is very important, otherwise your personality will be a dwarf personality - and ultimately people end up in money. I don't understand, I can't even count 200 notes, can't even. I don't know about money, I should say, but I'm good at mathematics but I don't know whatever money you are giving goes direct to them and they do it what they like. Now, if somebody says, 'How much you got for this?' I don't know? 'How much for royalties?' I don't know, because I'm not interested. I'm not interested. What is there to be so much interested in money? But I get money, all right, no problem, never a problem."

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - 4 October 1997, extract from evening before Navaratri talk, Cabella, Italy.

Sharing Self-Realization: Do we share it or will others get it from us?

Q (Lady): - Once we achieve Realization, do we go out to give it to others and do others come to us?


Shri Mataji: - No, no you should go all out. Imagine, at this age of mine - 70 years, I am traveling all over the world. You cannot enjoy it alone, so you want to give it others. And then only you enjoy. Giving Realization is the greatest joy.

1993-1004: Public Program, United Nations Meeting, New York

H.H.Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi