How do we prove that there is God?

The first and foremost question is how do we prove that there is God?  Because you assumed that there is God because somebody has said, "There is God." Now what are the ways of proving this - that there is God? So we have to attack the question, first from the reasoning point that we should be able to tell people that there is God through reason not through experiencing, because they are to be prepared. There will be many who really do not believe in God but just out of fashion they're saying, "All right we accept" because they want to keep up peace and the compromise. But how you start about convincing them rationally? Perhaps I spoke in one of My lectures if you have that, I don't know if you have got it. But we can prove it - the existence of God. You may call it God or nature or whatever it is, from many point of view. For example in short we can say, "There are many scientific things we cannot explain".

We cannot explain how the periodic laws were established without somebody being there. Periodic laws of chemical substances of the elements that exist on this Earth is so regular and so properly plotted down that you can see there must be some plotter otherwise it cannot be done. I mean if you want to avoid it, you can avoid it but there must be someone. Say we come in this room and find everything properly organized, lit up and we should know there must be somebody who has done it...

People like Jung have proved the existence of collective consciousness...The existence of unconscious, which gives us dreams through which we get universal symbols. All over the world whether we are in India or in England or anywhere. The symbols are the same and he has done experiments with thousands of people. "

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi   June 29, 1980  " How to Prove God Exists "  Dollis Hill ( London ) Ashram   U.K.

What living work have we done?

We are here because we are seeking. We are seeking something of the beyond, because we have a feeling within us that there is something that is beyond. But we have no guideline to understand what we have to do about it. In all the scriptures it was described that there is higher life, there is eternal life, there is Kingdom of God where you have to enter, that you are to be reborn. All this is Greek and Latin to most of the people.

And how to achieve it is another problem that faces us. For this we must ask one question to ourselves: what have we done to achieve this human state? From amoeba to this state how did we come? Do you know what you did, what effort you put in, how many times you were standing on your heads... breaking your bones? Did you see any cockroach working it out? Did you see any dog doing that or did you see yourself any time? Have you any memory of that? What have you done? In any human behavior have you seen that for doing anything important we have to do something about it? For example, we have eyes. We have them. We haven't done anything about getting them. They have been fixed properly, and this nose being fixed just in the center. We haven't done anything about it either. All this that we are supposed to be of which we are very proud. We think we are Mr Such and Such and Such and Such. You see Mr Ego part. We must know first of all that this we have not done. We have not created ourselves.

What else are we creating? Let's see. We have created this thing [INAUDIBLE]. Now this is all dead, from dead to dead. What living work have we done? Anything? Can you sprout a seed? Can you, even one? Even one you can't. So that means we have done nothing so far. It is only a myth that we believe into that we do this and we do that. Some people travelling by train, if they put their luggage on their heads and think that they are carrying the luggage, what will you call them? It is the same way, is our being created especially for a special purpose. You may call it God. You may call it nature, whatever you may call it. But it is not done by you by any chance. Once you understand this then the second point comes in. What, how are we to be Self-realized? How are we to be in that consciousness? So the answer is you cannot do it [sir]. If it is a living process you cannot do it by anything. You cannot work it out. It's difficult to understand this proposition. But it's a fact that you cannot do anything living and you cannot do this most dynamic thing within you that you take your second birth. If you could accept this assumption then we can go further, that you cannot do anything about it.
So now we come to this conclusion that somebody must do it. The one who have done so far is going to do it again. The one who has made this has also put a code with it. He has made all the arrangements. In the same way the one who has created you has made all the arrangements in your machinery, in your instrument, in this living machinery. He has created you so beautifully you can't imagine. And then here you are today just to be connected. And this can only be done through the Grace of God."

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi    June 30, 1979   " When in Darkness "   Dollis Hill  ( London ) Ashram  U.K.

The Ocean of Love

I told you about the three powers we have within ourselves: one is the power of desire that is on the left-hand side; and the another power of action which is on the right-hand side; and the central power which is the power of our divinity or evolution. Also I told you about the centers that we have. The lowest center is below the Kundalini which is responsible for our innocence. When this center gets disturbed then our innocence is also disturbed. This is a very, very important center for Sahaja Yoga. It plays a very vital role in your evolution. Whatever you have done before or you have done now to spoil the awakening of the Kundalini or you can say to spoil the Sushumna, the central part, is all recorded in that Kundalini Itself. But the recording takes place because this center which is at the end, which is innocence, receives all the information from this conditioning line, the left side. It receives all the information and it records, just like a tape recorder. So the Kundalini is aware of the mistakes that are committed by you personally, by the society, by the conditioning of the, your seeking, by all sorts of things that you have done so far, by which you have tried to hamper the path of your Realization. So this is the path, the central path which is very important for your ascent. But that should not give you a guilt. One thing I must tell you, when I speak you should not take Me that seriously. Because that's the worst thing that happens to you, that you start developing a guilt, and then the Realization becomes very difficult. So please do not develop any guilt when I say something, or just start pondering, "Oh, I have done this mistake and that mistake." Because I'm talking of first and last time as I said it and today is the first time I would say again, to begin with, that I'm talking of Ocean of Love. If you were so perfect there was no need to   have Sahaja Yoga. There was no need to do anything. Should have been the simplest job, you see. Anybody could have done it. Because there are complications and problems that somebody has to work it out. So there is nothing to feel guilty about it. First thing I have to request today is not to feel guilty about anything. 

So the second center is of your activity, as I told you. So through your activity also you create problems on the central line. Now how do you create that? It's like this. You can see the left and the right and the central. Central part is the Sushumna. Now these two start working. When they work very hard or they pull each other on the sides, then sometimes this may be dislocation completely by   which you lose your complete connection with the whole. Or could be that it may narrow down, the path may narrow down, and sometimes it can be very much injured or sick. These centers could be very sick.

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi   June 25, 1981   " The Ocean of Love "    Public Program    Hampstead, London, U.K.